to kiss or not to kiss ?





"Finally, brothers, good-bye. Aim for perfection, listen to my appeal, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you. Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the saints send their greetings. May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."

At the end of Pauls 2nd letter to the Corinthians he finishes by suggesting we should greet each other with a holy kiss...

It also comes in Romans 16:16, 1 Corinthians 16:20 and 1 Thessalonians 5:26

What would society think? is a kiss holy? Does a kiss involve lips? What is a kiss?

Dictionary definitions:

verb: touch or caress with the lips as a sign of love, affection, or greeting

So if we are commanded to in the bible, and we know what a kiss is, why do guys not kiss??

Are we just scared? Does it have the wrong meaning in todays society? There seems to be no shortage of guys trying to get kisses from beautiful ladies.. but when a guy greets another guy they can bearly manage hug, sometimes being reduced to a handshake. What sort of demonstration of affection is that?

Thoughts, comments ??
<giggle>

haven't any thoughts to share, being that I'm not really qualified to comment...  but amused that no one else has!

hope you are well!
xx
I have a question. What are you going to do to me next time I walk into the office?!
They Ey-ties, French, Spanish, Greeks and many Middle-eastern don’t seem to have a problem with it....ok maybe not always on the lips...
I'd just like to point out that when I saw you yesterday (and said hello from the safe position of the other side of your desk) you were wearing a pink jumper.

Not that there's anything wrong with pink jumpers, of course! I'm just saying...

Yours in brotherly affection with a big hug,

Cx
I'm pretty sure that after the traumas of  this weekend, Archie would have something to say on the subject... lol!
i don't think there's a right or wrong - each of us has to do as they feel led
My comment turned into a blog...sorry...

The Bible, along with being an authoratative text regarding morality and ethics, is also a historical document.  This naturally incorporates the cultural standards and traditions of the era.  Paul's reference to a holy kiss, I believe, does not necessarily imply a spiritual or ethical command, but rather is referencing acceptable and enjoyable traditions of the day that were employed to not only greet peers, but to show respect, admiration and love.

In today's context, a kiss may not necessarily be acceptable (in the eyes of some, I personally don't see an issue with it) but could very well be equivilent to a handshake or even a hug, depending on one's interpretation of the text, personal comfort zone etc etc. 

It is somewhat unfair to uproot the Bible from it's cultural and historical background, and then place it into our own sociological context, as it will not necessarily make sense.  For example, women were also told not to braid their hair.  In today's standards, that would probably mean "don't be vain"...greet each other with a holy kiss, whilst true in the literal sense at the time, could be viewed as, "greet each other in a warm, courteous and loving manner."

These are just thoughts...I don't know anything about kissing... :p

Hope you are well,

Willow x
Hello My Lovely,
How are you? Sorry its been a while. Hope you are OK> How is everything and Alpha and HTB? Sending you a big ISla hug xxx
Amen, Mat! Come visit me in Argentina and you'll find yourself in great company, and at liberty to kiss whoever you wish... All the men kiss each other hello and goodbye, and quite often a hug is thrown in for good measure! The reason why men in our society don't kiss or greet with affection is purely down to cultural training, there's no remotely biological explanation, and if I dare to say it I think it also has to do with homophobia...
I sum it up as follows:

David - full smacker as often as possible
family - firm smack on cheek with long hug
close friends - long hug
not-so-close-friends - hand on shoulder, small peck on cheek
people I don't know - handshake
colleagues - none of these during office hours (inc David!), but short hug otherwise